Catching Up on the Trump Trials
The Lawfare Podcast
The Lawfare Institute
4.7 • 6.4K Ratings
🗓️ 13 July 2023
⏱️ 54 minutes
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Summary
Earlier this year, Donald J. Trump became the first former president to be criminally indicted. A few months later, he became the first former president to be indicted a second time, this time in federal court. And it’s not clear that he is done, as Trump and his close associates remain at the center of at least two and possibly more ongoing criminal investigations that have not yet resulted in charges. Nor are Trump’s legal troubles limited to the criminal side of the ledger, as he and the Trump Organization he runs are also involved in a number of ongoing civil lawsuits. As a result, the leading candidate for the 2024 Republican presidential nomination is expected to spend much of that year in court.
To get a sense of the complex litigation landscape facing the president and to catch up on the latest developments, Lawfare Senior Editor Scott R. Anderson sat down with Lawfare’s two leading trial watchers: Senior Editor Roger Parloff and incoming Legal Fellow Anna Bower. They talked about the criminal cases Trump is facing, what charges may yet be coming down the pike, and how his overlapping trials—and the forthcoming election—fit into his apparent legal defense.
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| 0:29.0 | He also has potentially some arguments that he could make about, |
| 0:39.0 | you know, the Raffin's burger call, for example, |
| 0:43.0 | because some of that language and that call is somewhat ambiguous, |
| 0:47.0 | there's some arguments that he could make about, you know, |
| 0:50.0 | he was as president trying to investigate whether there really was fraud |
| 0:56.0 | and that he potentially wanted to use a federal agency like the Department of Justice |
| 1:01.0 | to do some more investigatory work. |
| 1:03.0 | And, you know, there's all these arguments that I don't think are on the merits |
| 1:08.0 | actually something that warrants a federal defense of supremacy clause immunity. |
| 1:13.0 | But in terms of this just very initial kind of basic raising something that's |
| 1:20.0 | efficient to get into federal court, I think that it's a lot stronger than the New York case. |
| 1:26.0 | I'm Scott Ar Anderson, and this is the LawFair podcast for July 13, 2023. |
| 1:32.0 | Earlier this year, Donald J. Trump became the first former president to be criminally indicted. |
| 1:36.0 | A few months later, he became the first former president to be indicted a second time, |
| 1:40.0 | this time in federal court, and it's not clear that he is done, |
| 1:43.0 | as Trump and his close associates remain at the center of at least two |
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