Hey, I'm Brian Huyo, and this is Rolling Stone, music now.

Today, I have an interview I did with Charlie Pooth, whose new album, Charlie, is out now.

Charlie, of course, is not only a pop star he's an incredibly

talented producer songwriter who famously has perfect pitch. He opened up the

process to making his album on Tik-Tock, which was an amazing use of that medium.

Today we talked in depth about the making of Charlie, about his time on Ellen Degenerous's label,

how he co-wrote the song Stay, that became a huge hit for the kid

Leroy and Justin Bieber, his love for Billy Joe and Bruce Springsteen, and a whole lot more.

I just want attention. You don't want my heart. a whole lot more. Your last album voice notes was a huge step forward for you.

It was really well received. I like it a lot but apparently you were only 60% happy with it. Why is that?

The reason was because it was still during a time in my recording

contract years where I was signed to a place

that had some people in it that were not really motivated to have me finish a full body of work.

It was really about what's the next hit single?

What's the next hit single hit single hit single hit single

please no one was ever really encouraging me to finish a full body of work so I had

multiple hits on that record and they were happy about that and then when I showed them other album tracks as they called them

They were like yeah, cool does as long as it gets done

So that always kind of hurt and stung a little bit and when I parted ways with them and went back to my original record label proper Atlantic Records.

First thing they told me was that they wanted me to focus on making the whole body of work.

And I was actually, I was actually taken a back bite a little bit.

I didn't really understand it because I was so manipulated in the past about just putting out singular music in my mind it meant oh you don't believe

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