Changing Tides and Lasting Impacts With Jeremy Fox

The Dave Chang Show

The Ringer

Society & Culture, Arts, Food

4.8 • 8.6K Ratings

🗓️ 22 September 2025

⏱️ 69 minutes

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In a heartfelt and personal conversation, Dave interviews acclaimed chef Jeremy Fox (0:50) about his new book, ‘On Meat,’ and his incredible, culinary-world-impacting restaurant Ubuntu, as well as the challenges of being in the restaurant world today. They discuss creativity (35:02), the evolution of the chef industry, and what they have learned over their long careers. To close the podcast, Dave makes two easy home versions of pan pizza (52:53). Get your copy of Jeremy Fox's On Meat: https://bookshop.org/p/books/on-meat-modern-recipes-for-the-home-kitchen-jeremy-fox/761f4f9473f0d92f?ean=9781837290864&next=t Get your copy of Jeremy Fox's On Vegetables: https://bookshop.org/p/books/on-vegetables-modern-recipes-for-the-home-kitchen-jeremy-fox/720be6559d3afd38?ean=9780714873909&next=t Learn more about Birdie G's: https://www.birdiegsla.com/about/ Learn more about Rustic Canyon: https://rusticcanyonrestaurant.com/ Listen to our previous episode with Jeremy: https://open.spotify.com/episode/7q5OmeGiUgxC05at8OmhQg Learn more about Manresa: https://www.ritualatmanresa.com/ Watch our previous episode with Sean Gray of Sergeantsville Inn: https://www.theringer.com/podcasts/the-dave-chang-show/2025/01/30/the-romantic-ideal-of-a-restaurant-with-sean-gray Learn more about Agnes and Sherman: https://www.agnesandsherman.com/ Learn more about Smithereens: https://www.smithereensnyc.com/ Learn more about Claud: https://www.claudnyc.com/ Listen to Velvet Underground's White Light / White Heat album: https://open.spotify.com/album/554JkhGvfj3IvlSyTaFQJB?si=OTngrsKDT7Wv0-vQ__NgJA Learn more about Mugaritz: https://www.mugaritz.com/en/ Learn more about Blue Hill at Stone Barns: https://www.bluehillfarm.com/ Get your copy of Vegetables by Great French Chefs: https://www.rizzoliusa.com/buy-online/9782080301253/ Learn more about Fig: https://eatatfig.com/ Learn more about Le Bernadin: https://www.le-bernardin.com/ Learn more about Commis: https://commisrestaurant.com/ Learn more about Cairnspring Mills: https://cairnspring.com/ Learn more about Darling: https://www.darling.la/ Learn more about Hillstone: https://hillstone.com/ Send in your Ask Dave questions to bit.ly/AskDaveForm or [email protected]. Subscribe to the show on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thedavechangshow. Subscribe to Recipe Club on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@recipeclubofficial. Submit your favorite food moments in your favorite movies to majorfoodporn.com. Join our community Discord on majordomo.com. Look for the black carton in the egg aisle. Host: Dave Chang Guest: Jeremy Fox Majordomo Media Producer: David Meyer Spotify Producer: Felipe Guilhermino Editor: Stefano Sanchez Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:30.5	dave chang here i just made a pizza in a black steel pan pan pizza in an oven 500 degrees did it in about seven minutes right there
0:40.7	in the air fryer you'll have to see what's in there there might be a pizza in there i'm cooking
0:46.6	pan pizza in there and something i make at home a lot and uh we are going to interview one of the great
0:53.7	chefs jeremy fox if you are in the industry you want to check it out and he are going to interview one of the great chefs, Jeremy Fox.
0:55.3	If you are in the industry, you want to check it out.
0:58.0	And he's got a fantastic new book out called On Meat.
1:01.4	And it's a good companion to his first book called On Vegetables.
1:05.5	Great Jeremy Fox of Bertie G's in Santa Monica.
1:09.8	And he's going to join us in just a little bit.
1:11.5	Talk to you soon.
1:15.6	Welcome to the Dave Chang Show, part of the Ringer Podcast Network, presented by Major Duma
1:18.8	Media.
1:19.1	Thank you, Yolaud Tango, as always.
1:21.0	We're back with Jeremy Fox.
1:22.7	He was last on in 2018 when I think we just started out this crazy podcast, different world, different
1:28.7	time.
1:29.8	Bertie G's had not yet opened up.
1:32.7	Wow, the world was a very, very different place.
1:37.4	To be cliche, it was a much simpler time.
1:39.6	Much simpler time.
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