Most people know Cameron and Tyler Winkle Voss as co-founders of Facebook and early investors in Bitcoin. But what drove them to Facebook and

Bitcoin is actually a lifelong desire to stand up to authority and

centralized power. And in this country where we value freedom and independent so much, it's actually ironic how much of our lives and how much of our information is actually controlled by only a few companies.

So I thought it would be interesting to talk to them. controlled by only a few companies.

So I thought it would be interesting to talk to them about what it'll take to break away from

authority.

This is a bit of optimism.

Cameron and Tyler, thanks so much for sitting down to talk with me. Firstly, and I don't want to go down a rabbit hole with this,

but I am just dying to know what was your original concept for Facebook way back in Harvard and did you ever imagine what it would become or did you have a glimpse of what it could become?

So we at the start of our junior year in college and one of the things that I think drew us there in Cambridge, Massachusetts was this idea that there's something like 50 different universities and colleges.

It's a super cool environment and area and probably one of the neatest academic and

idea-based communities, I think, in the US if not the world and what we found as we approached our junior

year we were talking with our friend and who became a partner at that time

Divia Nurendra.

And we were like, wow, we can't believe

we're already halfway through university.

It's going so quickly.

There's all these opportunities and we felt like we're running out of

time and we barely scratched the surface of the community where we're at

currently or any of these other communities nearby and what happens is you get into

your track you get into your major in our case we are rowers so between those two you have this amazing network of the boat house and your teammates

but you do get locked in to these paths. So we started to brainstorm is there a

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