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Gangster

Catching the Kingpins: 3. In Suburbia

Gangster

BBC

True Crime, Documentary, Society & Culture

4.81.4K Ratings

🗓️ 21 January 2024

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

In the wealthy village of Denham in Buckinghamshire, Lee Hannigan and Harry Hicks-Samuels play the part of successful businessmen really well. Hannigan has a car garage, a mansion with a Ferrari on the drive and a place in Dubai. Hicks-Samuels is only 27 but has a watch business and flat in a luxury development.

But the secrets of where their money really comes from are on their EncroChat phones.

Presenter: Mobeen Azhar Series Producer: Andrew Hosken Editor and Executive Producer: Innes Bowen Catching the Kingpins is a BBC Studios Production for BBC Sounds.

Transcript

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0:00.0

I love you and would kill before I would see you taken from me.

0:06.0

Lady Killers is back.

0:08.0

Join me Lucy Worsley to investigate infamous female criminals from the past.

0:13.2

It's really important that we listen to these voices about the society in which they lived.

0:18.0

We're seeking to understand these women from the perspective of 21st century feminists.

0:23.0

We cannot put women into history on the basis of likeability.

0:26.0

Put all the women back, the sinners and the saints.

0:29.0

Lady Killers, listen first on BBC sounds.

0:33.0

You're about to listen to Gangster Presents,

0:35.4

catching the kingpins.

0:37.0

Episodes will be released on Sundays wherever you get your podcasts.

0:40.8

But if you're in the UK, listen to the full series right now, first on BBC Sounds.

0:46.0

I'm an early bird so I'll get up early.

0:50.0

It is Saturday breakfast and the time is 632.

0:54.0

It was June the 13th.

0:56.0

It was a nice warm day and I woke up through a number of calls and I need something that happened.

1:05.0

Summer 2020, Detective Chief Inspector Dris Hauecane

1:10.0

has spent over two months working on a major operation.

1:14.3

Police across Europe have been secretly reading messages

1:18.0

shared by criminals on an encrypted phone network

1:21.3

called Encrochat. But suddenly... phone network called Encro Chats, but suddenly it's no longer a secret.

1:28.0

The company Encro Chats sent a message to every single device saying that they'd been hacked by a law enforcement

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