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This is Recode Media with me, Peter Kafka, in a very small room in New York.

Next to producer, Zach Mack. I'm going to take you back in time and back across the

West Coast at Los Angeles,

where he hosted the Code Media Conference. It was a damn good conference if I do say so myself. This is

one of my favorite conversations I had there. This is Carolyn Everson, who runs ad sales for Facebook,

which means she's one of the most important people in the media and tech world. It's like $55 billion worth of ad sales

last year. This is a wide-ranging conversation. Of course, we had a lot of talk about Facebook's

politics and ads policies. We get into it. It's good stuff. If you're deep into this stuff,

you want to check that Carolyn eventually had to walk back a couple things here, but the gist of it

is still what she's trying to get across. Enjoy. You're gonna disappear into that chair, but I appreciate. I know, I'm on brand though, Peter. I'm on brand. Thank you for that. Did you realize that John Stanky and AT&T and Time Warner and Warner Media are just this little company and you're gonna smush them? We certainly don't think of them as a little company. We have a lot of admiration for them. They're an important partner, an important client, so we certainly don't view them that way. I want to talk to you about the role of advertising in this world that we're discussing. First, let's talk about politics. When I asked you to come on, I didn't realize we'd have this discussion, but now we're going to have it.

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