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comes to you from our Code Media conference. This is a conversation I had with John Stanky.

He's the CEO of AT&T and the CEO of WarnerMedia.

We focused mostly on the WarnerMedia part.

Obviously, as you know, WarnerMedia is launching HBO Max as its entry into the streaming

wars next spring.

We talked about the strategy for that launch,

the strategy for Warner Media in general. Criticism AT&T has gotten about its media business.

It's a pretty wide-ranging conversation. I think you will enjoy it.

Hi, John. You want to put on a conference that people want to attend and you have me come up

first. That seems like a mistake. I think it's going to work out fine. You're a little peppered up. It's good. We're going to spend a lot of time talking about your company, but I want to talk about someone who's not your company. Disney launched last week. Disney Plus 10 million, I guess, sign-up subscribers. I'm not quite sure what the right metric is. As someone who is launching your own streaming service next spring,

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