Hello everyone welcome to shift a podcast about mobility. My name is Pete Bigelow. I'm a reporter at the Automotive News and your host.

And I'm Leslie Allen, editor of Shift, the magazine, and editor of Mobility Coverage at Automotive News. Good morning, Leslie. How are you? I'm doing

great. So today we're going to be talking to Carla Baylo, the president and

CEO of the Center for Automotive Research in Ann Arbor, which should be a terrific conversation since the management briefing

seminars and Traverse City get underway today.

That's right, and I'll be there and I'm looking forward to it and I'm really looking forward to this conversation with

Carla.

Excellent.

Well first I know there's a lot of things going on in the news related to automated vehicles

that I want to talk to you about today before we chat with Carla here.

I don't know how much of a surprise it was to people but you know we had crews which is affiliated

with General Motors saying that they're not going to be able to meet a target that they had

set to have these vehicles out in 2019. Can you, what is your thought about that?

Yeah, in some ways I think that was one of the worst kept secrets that that's been around in recent months is the fact that

Cruise automation is not going to launch its driverless taxis,

certainly not in any sort of widespread way and now they're officially just

delaying the launch which probably is the the smart and right thing to do if

they're not quite ready to go. Yeah you don't want to rush something out on the market and you're not 100% sure that it's good

to go.

Looking back, people will probably say that that was a good decision on the behalf of Cruz.

So we'll see how that shakes out.

Yeah I think it kind of follows you know what other companies have done with you know

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