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Hello, welcome to another episode of Pop Bear Hikes.

We all have those talents and skills we admire from other people.

We say, I wish I could do that.

Like, for example, I love playing baseball, but I was never any better than a softball

player, not very good at that.

And now that I'm getting older and I'm spending even more time in the outdoors and

using my cell phone to take pictures and videos, I constantly find myself saying,

wow, I wish I had the skills to take the pictures that some of these,

these professionals are taking, some of these photos you see people selling or

in magazines.

Today we have with us somebody who is making money from his photography,

who is who it's not a hobby for him.

It's a profession.

I'd like to welcome John Black that Pop Bear Hikes.

Thank you for having me on.

I really appreciate it.

And John, as I said, when I see the work that people like you do, I just,

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