Hi, welcome back to the Personality Hacker Podcast. My name is Joel Mark Witt.

And I'm Antonio Dodge. We do a monthly Q&A, question and answer session for our profiler training certification course which opens up every December but the

Q&A sessions are ongoing. They happen once a month, basically in perpetuity. And we have some really interesting

conversations that or questions that come up, and primarily it's focused on different principles

of profiling people or trying to figure out their personality type in a live

context when you're talking to the person and asking them questions and allowing their answers

to reveal components of how their mental processes or cognitive functions are operating inside of them.

And what's interesting is that when Joel and I host these and we get a question,

he and I almost always agree on the answer.

So we'll give an answer in sort of my perspective and his perspective.

But what happened in the most recent Q&A was particularly interesting because we totally

disagreed on the answer and we thought it prompted an interesting enough

conversation that we wanted to repeat it here and discuss where like basically where we we found our way back to each other in the conversation.

So the question was does the and I'm going to use some technical terms here, and so as always, if you

are unfamiliar with these terms, please feel free to go to the personality hacker website and

look up the car model and cognitive functions, and please acquaint yourself with those concepts.

We're going to talk a lot about those concepts in this podcast.

So if you're unfamiliar with them, please feel free to go reference that material.

So the question was... feel free to go reference that material.

So the question was, does anything positive ever

come out of what's called the dominant tertiary loop?

Or for those of you familiar with the car model the driver 10 year old loop and I was

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