All right. Hello, everybody. I am Nick Gillespie. I'm with Reason. This is the Reason interview. It's a special live stream edition. And I am joined today by the heads or near heads of two of the largest libertarian student groups, student organization, campus present groups,

Students for Liberty, and Young Americans for Liberty.

My guests are Dr. Wolf on Lar.

Wolf, thanks for joining us.

Thank you so much for having us.

And Wolf is the CEO of Students for Liberty, and we're joined also by Sean Tima, who is the chief

operating officer of Young Americans for Liberty.

Sean, thanks for joining us.

Nick, thanks for having us.

Okay.

So we're going to talk about the Charlie Kirk assassination, the leader of Turning Point USA,

and what kind of reverberations and impact

that's had on campus activism and campus organization and just the way that students are

feeling while also talking about what SFL and Young Americans for Liberty are up to on campus

and how the receptivity towards libertarian ideas are going.

Jens, thanks again for joining.

Wolf, let's start with you.

Where were you and what kind of conversation within your organization did you have, like

when you got the news that not only was Charlie Kirk assassinated, which is

an unbelievable act of violence, but on a college campus. How did you respond? I mean, pure

and other shock, of course. I mean, we didn't see any of that coming, and Charlie was a voice

of a generation, and Gen Z is heavily influenced by him and I think

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