What is going on everybody? Welcome back to the Mind Over Macros Podcast. As always, I am

your host Mike Melner and today we are going to discuss an important debate. This is a debate that circles,

this is a debate that circles the fitness industry over and over again.

I'm laughing at myself because I have been stumbling and stuttering on my words all morning.

And that's not really a good quality

when you're trying to produce a podcast.

But everything that we do here is real and raw and uncut.

And so you get my bumbling and muttering and stumbling. I'm sorry but that's what it is.

But there's a debate in the fitness industry and people get really heated and passionate about this topic and we're going to put it to rest.

We are going to end the debate today.

And that debate is hormones versus calories.

Hormones versus calories.

I was asked this question on a podcast

as a really good interview that I did and I will let everybody know when that

interview is available but it was on a wellness podcast and I was asked this

question are calories the most important thing? Do calories matter more than

hormones? And we had a wonderful discussion around the topic.

And by the way, if you are not following me on Instagram, see,

I can't speak today.

If you're not following me on Instagram, I will post other interviews

when I'm a guest on another show I'll typically just

post that to my stories and drop the link in there so you can follow me at coach

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