Hey friends, I'm Julie Slattery and you're listening to Java with Julie.

This is a podcast that's an outreach of authentic intimacy, helping people make sense of God

and sexuality.

So I am really glad you're here and would encourage you to grab your coffee and settle in

because I've got a really fun conversation for you today.

My guest is Brown and Lee and she is a leadership coach at Propel Woman. She wrote a book called

Beyond Awkward Sidehugs, Living as Christian Brothers and Sisters in a Sex-Craised world.

If you spent any time in church, maybe especially as a single Christian, you probably know

what a side hug is.

It's kind of our way of trying to avoid temptation, sort of keeping people at a distance.

But that doesn't really reflect how Jesus taught us to live as brothers and sisters in the family

of God.

I can't really imagine Jesus giving Mary Magdalene a side hook.

But in this conversation, Brownwyn and I talk about how we confuse intimacy and sexuality.

Why that's a problem and how Jesus actually modeled for us close non-romantic friendships with the opposite sex and how Jesus actually modeled for us close non-romantic friendships with the opposite sex,

and how whether you're single or married, you can have healthy relationships as brothers and

sisters in Christ.

Now, as you listen, I want you to think about somebody you might share this conversation

with, somebody that you can actually have a meaningful conversation

about what healthy relationships look like, how to build community, and how to really live

as God's family. Now let's dive into my conversation with Brown and Lee.

Well, Braunman, welcome to Job with Julie, and I love having guests on that have intriguing accents, and you have one. So let's hear it.

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