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Confidently Insecure

burnout to 💫 PSYCHEDELICS 💫 w/ BOBBY LENNOX

Confidently Insecure

Kelsey Darragh

Society & Culture, Education, Comedy

4.81.8K Ratings

🗓️ 6 October 2025

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

What happens when you go from corporate burnout to facilitating psychedelic healing in a church? Bobby Lennox, founder of Jaguar House Ministries, joins me to talk about his wild transformation — from miserable suit-and-tie life to deep spiritual work through Bufo (aka the mystical toad medicine 🐸).

We get real about:

💫 The power of psychedelics for mental health and trauma healing

🌀 What actually happens during a Bufo ceremony

💬 The crucial role of integration (because tripping is the easy part)

🏛️ How Bobby legally created a psychedelic church to help others heal

🌿 And why community + compassion matter more than “perfect enlightenment”

This one’s part therapy session, part cosmic sermon, and fully life-changing. Whether you’ve done plant medicine before or are just curious what all the “toad talk” is about — this episode will open your mind and maybe even your heart.

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https://jaguarhouse.org/

https://www.instagram.com/_bobbylennox_/

https://www.instagram.com/jaguarhousechurch/

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Da la la. Hey! Welcome to the confidence and the kids. The podcast we're

0:07.0

absolutely sure. We don't know everything. Oh my God. You guys, can you believe this? I made a friend

0:13.6

as an adult. This doesn't happen. This is something that plagues a lot of people. We're always like,

0:19.3

how do you make friends in your third?

0:21.0

Like past 25, there's like a no new friends rule.

0:24.0

I've only made new friends past 25.

0:26.6

I'm like, people please come into my life.

0:29.0

And I've met this wonderful, gorgeous, beautiful human who is here to explain to us all about how he founded.

0:36.6

That's right.

0:37.4

Founder Week, baby, Founder Energy. The Jaguar. Church. Yeah. Jaguar House Ministries. Oh my God. That sounds so baller. Welcome to the podcast, my friend, Bobby Lennie. Hey. Bye, right, right, blah. Let me get my hands. Sweet. Love-horn. Okay. First of all, you're my new friend. You're my new lover. Truly. Duh. I, like, hate most people. Adore you. We met through mutual friends who I also love. Yeah. And are the very few people that I allow into my space and energy. High quality human beings. High quality. This is that thing that they say, you're like closest friends reflect you. Yeah. And they're a reflection of them. And you're a reflection of them. So it would make sense that we like each other. And now we're reflecting each other. And now we're reflecting each other. And it was so funny when the first night I met you, we were sitting like on opposite ends of the table diagonal to each other.

1:28.4

And I feel like we were just shouting. I mean, two fire signs at a dinner table together. Leo and Ari's just being like, oh, we're going to be loud. And I'm like, let me get your number. Because I didn't hear about like your story until later on in the conversation. and things just kept coming out from that end of the table that I was like, wait, hold on.

1:46.9

What did you say?

1:48.0

Yeah. What are you talking about over there? So just for the confidants, that's our listener's name, who are you and what do you do? Yeah. My name is Bobby Lennox. I'm the founder of Jaguar House Ministries, which is a psychedelic religious organization.

2:03.1

What?

2:03.9

Yeah.

2:05.1

And I heard that and I said, what?

2:06.6

And you say, what the fuck?

2:08.3

No, it's been such a wild journey to get here.

2:12.3

Because my background was not in this work.

2:15.0

My background was not in religion.

2:17.2

Tell them. I mean, I started out was not in religion. Tell them.

2:17.8

I mean, I started out in the corporate world.

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