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Politics Unpacked

Burnham, Reform & Clarkson Bans MPs

Politics Unpacked

Anna Covell

News & Politics, Politics, News

4.41.4K Ratings

🗓️ 15 December 2025

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

Does Andy Burnham want to be PM? Reform UK has become Britain’s largest party by membership, and Jeremy Clarkson is the latest pub owner to bar Labour MPs from his pub.


Hugo Rifkind unpacks the politics of the day with Seb Payne and Emma Duncan.



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0:00.0

Hello, hello, I'm Hugo Rifkin, and now we're going to be unpacking the politics of the day,

0:09.4

from Kirstama's diplomatic manoeuvres on Ukraine to the small matter of whether Andy Burnham fancies himself as PM.

0:16.6

And we'll tackle the question also that has haunted Westminster for generations.

0:20.4

Who would Santa vote for? With me to unpack all of that, taking the presents out of the Christmas sack. I have the times as Seb Payne. Hello, Seb. Hello, Hugo. Feeling very festive this morning, are we? I mean, you're saying that because I'm, of course, dressed like Santa this morning. Exactly. I think you're wearing the uniform of Hugo Rifkin this morning.

0:37.8

I think you'll find when he's off-duty, Santa probably wears a black t-shirt and blue jeans.

0:41.0

I'm also joined by Emma Duncan. Hello, Emma.

0:43.4

Hello, nice to be with you. How are you keeping, Emma?

0:45.9

Very well indeed. Are you feeling festive?

0:48.2

I am feeling dead festive. I've got a very small grandchild coming over very shortly from the United States. Oh, wonderful. I barely felt more festive. Well, I can't see you, but I choose to believe that you are wearing fake reindeer horns right now that are intertwined with tinsel. Am I right? That's me? Yep, I knew it. Let's crack on. I want to start by talking about what Kirstama's going to be up to today. Excuse me, he's going to be facing MPs on the liaison committee this afternoon. As Steve Swinford put it on Times Radio this morning, it's a fairly typical end-of-term event, although that, of course, doesn't mean that it's going to be necessarily uneventful. Seb, the liaison committee isn't usually a generator of big headlines. Might it be today?

1:33.1

I think it could be for the one reason of Meg Hillier, who's chair of the Treasury Select Committee,

1:39.7

and she's a Labour MP, and she's been pretty vocal about how unhappy she was about the budget in particular,

1:43.3

in terms of the pre-briefing and also the manifesto question.

1:44.7

And what was said to the public and the big question is still going round Westminster of did Rachel Reeves mislead the public or not.

1:50.2

So she will be there because the liaison committee is the heads of all the other select committee

1:54.3

who get their chance to get stuck into the prime minister.

1:57.2

The only one I can remember that was really eventful was when towards the end of Boris Johnson's time when his government was collapsing around him.

2:04.0

And I remember Sky News had a ticker of how many ministers had resigned.

2:08.1

And about three ministers resigned while he was in the liaison commission.

2:11.4

You could see the government falling apart beneath your eyes.

2:13.8

But I think there's an interesting contrast with this because he's there.

2:17.4

It's probably going to be mostly domestic stuff and I think the official title of this

2:21.4

hearing is the plan for change one year on do you remember the plan for change

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