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🗓️ 12 December 2025
⏱️ 29 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | I'm Ed Vasey and we're going to be unpacking the politics of the day |
| 0:09.3 | from efforts to find a breakthrough in Ukraine to Tory defections to reform |
| 0:13.1 | to whether lazy peers should work through Christmas to pass the workers' rights bill. |
| 0:19.5 | I can't remember who my producers were thinking of when they wrote the phrase, |
| 0:23.8 | lazy peers. |
| 0:25.7 | But joining me is the very hardworking Michael Binion, |
| 0:29.4 | the former diplomatic editor for the Times. |
| 0:31.4 | Welcome to the show. |
| 0:32.6 | Thanks, Ed. |
| 0:33.1 | And the equally hardworking Alice Denby, opinion and features editor at City AM. |
| 0:40.0 | Hello, Merry Christmas. |
| 0:41.5 | Well, you're obviously the lazy one, Alice, because you couldn't be bothered to come in the studio. |
| 0:45.2 | It's not that. It's my daughter's end of term. She's got half day. |
| 0:48.8 | So I need to go and pick her up after this. |
| 0:50.5 | There you go. Who says... |
| 0:51.7 | I'm a hardworking mum. |
| 0:53.0 | Who says Times Radio presenters are divorced from |
| 0:56.3 | real life. Let's begin with efforts from European leaders to find a peace deal for Ukraine. It's been |
| 1:03.8 | another weekend of shuttle diplomacy ahead. It's going to be another weekend of shuttle diplomacy ahead |
| 1:08.8 | for the Prime Minister and other European leaders. Michael Binion, this feels to me like a hiding to nothing. It certainly does, |
| 1:16.5 | and it looks as though the Europeans again have a little say in what is the final outcome, |
| 1:21.1 | nor indeed will Zelensky have much say. I mean, Trump is absolutely determined to push this thing |
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