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PBS News Hour - Brooks and Capehart

Brooks and Capehart on Trump's focus on reaching the Gaza peace deal

PBS News Hour - Brooks and Capehart

PBS NewsHour

Politics, News

4.51.2K Ratings

🗓️ 10 October 2025

⏱️ 11 minutes

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New York Times columnist David Brooks and Jonathan Capehart of MSNBC join Geoff Bennett to discuss the week in politics, including President Trump celebrating the Gaza peace deal while targeting political enemies at home and the government shutdown entering its second weekend. PBS News is supported by - https://www.pbs.org/newshour/about/funders. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy

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With President Trump celebrating victories abroad and targeting political enemies here at home,

0:05.7

there is much to discuss tonight with Brooks and Capehart.

0:08.5

That's New York Times columnist David Brooks and Jonathan Capehart of MSNBC.

0:13.0

With a hello to you both.

0:14.1

I'm Jeff.

0:14.7

So both Israel and Hamas have agreed to phase one of the peace plan.

0:19.2

We see the negotiations there on the screen, and that was

0:21.9

followed by today, celebrations in Israel and also along the Gaza Strip. I want to start with

0:28.5

your reaction to this real breakthrough. Jonathan. Look, I'm going to say something that I have

0:35.1

never said before and that this audience has never heard me say before.

0:39.1

Kudos to the president. I think we are at this point because the president was single,

0:44.3

he was focused, single-mindedly focused on getting something, getting a deal done,

0:50.6

getting the hostages out. The hard part comes after he leaves the region, after we get past

1:00.5

phase one, assuming we get the 20, the Israeli hostages released, the 20 who were presumed alive,

1:07.1

after the 2,000 Palestinians are released by Israel. Once we get past that, there are so many

1:15.2

questions that are still out there that leaves me skeptical that my kudos to the president

1:20.0

will maintain. One, will they be able to get Hamas disarmed? Two, will there be a legitimate negotiating partner among the Palestinians for Israel and everyone to negotiate with an international stabilization force for the area?

1:37.0

And also the big thing, sort of Palestinian self-governance, or in other words, a two-state solution, something that

1:47.0

Prime Minister Netanyahu has made clear he's not interested in. And if we're going to get

1:52.3

through all these phases of this peace plan, the single-minded focus of the president that got

1:58.2

us to this crucial point will be needed for the next

2:02.7

19 phases. And I just don't see how he does that. And given the history of dashed hopes in the

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