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PBS News Hour - Brooks and Capehart

Brooks and Capehart on Trump commuting George Santos' prison sentence

PBS News Hour - Brooks and Capehart

PBS NewsHour

News, Politics

4.51.2K Ratings

🗓️ 17 October 2025

⏱️ 10 minutes

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Summary

New York Times columnist David Brooks and Jonathan Capehart of MSNBC join Amna Nawaz to discuss the week in politics, including President Trump commuting the sentence of former GOP Rep. George Santos, the government shutdown enters its third week as Trump shows no signs of wanting to negotiate, the Young Republicans' hateful group chat and reporters refusing the Pentagon's new press rules. PBS News is supported by - https://www.pbs.org/newshour/about/funders. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy

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0:00.0

For more on the week's political headlines, we turn now to the analysis of Brooks and Capehart.

0:05.3

That is New York Times columnist David Brooks and Jonathan Capehart of MSNBC.

0:09.7

Great to see you both.

0:10.5

Hey, I'm not.

0:11.2

Can I get you quickly to weigh in on this news we just got that the president late today commuted the sentence of former New York Republican Congressman George Santos,

0:19.4

who reported to prison this summer after

0:21.2

pleading guilty to a laundry list of federal charges, including wire fraud, identity theft, and

0:25.8

money laundering. The president said, at least he always had the courage and conviction to vote

0:29.9

Republican. Jonathan, what do you make of that decision by the president? It's Friday. So it's

0:35.6

the theater of the absurd in the extreme.

0:39.8

This guy stole from people.

0:42.5

He did all sorts of horrible things.

0:44.5

He was being held accountable for it.

0:47.6

And, you know, the president, as we have seen many, many times, just use this as an opportunity

0:53.2

to just stick his finger in the eye of justice,

0:57.6

of accountability, of everything that we used to think was normal, insane.

1:05.4

David, what do you make of it?

1:06.8

Yeah, I picked up on the sentence you read that Trump said he voted a Republican.

1:10.9

And that's the operative thing here. Sin read that Trump said he voted a Republican. And that was, that's the operative thing here.

1:12.8

Sin, crime, but he voted a Republican.

1:15.0

It made me think, is there any Republican that Trump would not commute or not pardon?

1:20.1

And he's turned into a partisan game, the granting of pardons, and Santos is going to claim he broke out of prison like Shawshank redemption or something.

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