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🗓️ 23 April 2025
⏱️ 47 minutes
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0:00.0 | Have you ever had a loved one leave the church and your relationship becomes awkward? |
0:11.0 | This is so common and so sad. |
0:14.0 | I got the chance to interview the Packard family who have been down this road. |
0:18.0 | Cindy and Blair Packard are Orthodox-believing parents and Josh, their son, |
0:22.4 | and his wife, have left the church. We came together to discuss their journey, and it was amazing |
0:28.3 | what they taught. They talked about the communications they regretted and how other siblings |
0:33.1 | responded in positive and negative ways. They learned how to pick up the pieces again, express love, carry on, and build a beautiful relationship. |
0:42.3 | This has become a favorite in the Questioning Saints Virtual Library. |
0:46.3 | You can actually gain access to this interview at LeadingSaints.org slash 14. |
0:50.3 | This will give you 14 days to watch the Packard's interview and many others related to helping individuals who begin to question their faith. |
0:59.2 | Go to leadingsaints.org slash 14 and get access now. So my name is Kurt Frankum, and I am the founder and executive director of Leading Saints |
1:30.5 | and obviously the host of the Leading Saints podcast. |
1:33.6 | Now, I started Leading Saints back in 2010. |
1:37.3 | It was just a hobby blog, and it grew from there by the time 2014 came around. |
1:42.9 | We started the podcast, and that's really when it got some |
1:45.4 | traction and took off 2016. We became a 501C3 nonprofit organization, and we've been growing |
1:52.7 | ever since. And now I get the opportunity of interviewing and talking with remarkable people |
1:57.6 | all over the world. Now, this is a segment we do on the Leading Saints podcast |
2:01.8 | called How I Lead. And we reach out to everyday leaders. They're not experts, gurus, authors, |
2:08.1 | PhDs. They're just everyday leaders who've been asked to serve in a specific leadership calling. |
2:13.2 | And we simply ask them, how is it that you lead? And they go through some remarkable principles that should be in a book that should be behind a PhD. |
2:20.7 | They're usually that good. |
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