I'm thrilled to today's guest Brian Stelter. I've been a big fan for years way back to when he was a Jimmy Olsen cub reporter at the New York Times at age 22

Doing the media beat there and talking about advertising stuff that's near and dear to my heart

He started his career very young, kind of

of launching TV news a while at Towson State. Of course for nine years he hosted

the hit show Reliable Sources. We're going to talk a lot about that, which I miss very much, one of my favorite shows.

Best-selling author, two books, Top of the Morning hoax, Donald Trump, Fox News,

and The Dangerous Distortion of Truth.

Two great books.

He recently joined the Walter

Shortstein Media and Democracy Fellowship at the Harvard

Kennedy School. He recently hosted a panel, Clear and Present

Danger, with Disinformation to World Economic Forum, meeting and Davos.

An important media voice.

Thanks for joining us, my friend.

I'm thrilled to be here, thank you.

So how did this whole thing,

I just want to start at the little beginning,

how did this, I mean, you're Tousin State,

and all of a sudden you just, where did you get the balls to just like start TV news or like you're in car I was sitting there just smoking weed in college my whole time you know?

Well I needed money for beer so I launched the blog and turned into a job.

Actually, I was just, I was, you know, I was a TV news junkie and I created the website that I wanted to read.

And I feel like that's what I have in common with others who launch

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