Brian Richards | The Science Behind Infrared Saunas: Can Near-Infrared Light Repair Your DNA?

Wellness + Wisdom Podcast

Josh Trent

Emotionalintelligence, Behaviorchange, Mindfulness, Religion & Spirituality, Mindset, Neuroscience, Self-improvement, Habits, Wellness, Consciousness, Anxiety, Fitness, Behavioralpsychology, Education, Health, Breathwork, Nutrition, Meditation, Organic, Strength, Mentalhealth, Depression, Spirituality, Psychedelics, Personalgrowth, Selfhelp, Supplements, Selfdevelopment, Physical

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🗓️ 8 April 2025

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

Wellness + Wisdom | Episode 730

Could your DNA hold a hidden superpower that’s just waiting to be activated by light?

Brian Richards, Founder of SaunaSpace, joins Josh Trent on the Wellness + Wisdom Podcast, episode 730, to uncover how near-infrared saunas can help cleanse toxins, support brain function, and even raise your vibrational frequency, and why embracing your innate power to heal is the ultimate path to true freedom.

"One of the effects of photobiomodulation is to correct gene transcription = how the DNA is read. The DNA and the epigenetics are being fixed in a much more powerful way with the near-infrared light than they're being damaged by the ultraviolet component of the sunlight. But indoors, we only use damaging light. There's none of the healing light anymore. So to bring ourselves back into balance, we need to get a lot more near-infrared light. And the incandescent bulb uniquely presents itself as a way to do that." - Brian Richards

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In This Episode, Brian Richards Uncovers:

[00:55] Your DNA Creates Light

Brian Richards
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525 Red Light Therapy For Seasonal Affective Disorder (SAD) | Brian Richards
How our DNA creates light.
The difference between far-infrared and near-infrared light.
How we need to have compassion for the people who are stuck in the Matrix.
What makes us vibrate at a higher frequency.

[04:05] Choose Compassion Over Judgment

The Four Agreements by Don Miguel Ruiz
Why there is no benefit to judgment.
How compassion is a vehicle for new choices.
Be Here Now by Ram Dass
We're not truly healed until our family stops triggering us.

[06:30] Redefining Biohacking

Why we attach a negative meaning to the word "work."
How Brian's work is an extension of him and his consciousness.
Why SaunaSpace is about being, not about doing.
How he's making biohacking and science more heart-focused.
Why red light therapy heals us but also enhances the indoor environment.
How red light therapy serves as a replacement for fire light.

[14:15] The Benefits of Red Light Therapy

How SaunaSpace helped Josh's daughter heal jaundice when she was born.
Why technology prevents us from connecting with our families.
How people gravitate toward the screen because they're constantly stressed out.
Why subtle frequencies calm our nervous system, ease stress, and remind us to be ourselves.

[18:00] Infrared Sauna VS Regular Sauna

How SaunaSpace works holistically to support our well-being.
The science of near-infrared light.
How man-made EMFs are toxic to us.
The difference between an infrared sauna and a regular sauna.
Why 15 minutes inside the infrared sauna is enough to get all the benefits.
How physical health is not the biggest benefit of the sauna.
Why the infrared sauna provides us with more capacity to make lifestyle changes.

[25:10] Can Light Change The DNA?

How melatonin is produced in the body.
Why taking vitamin D supplements is not as efficient as taking light in through the skin.
How photobiomodulation corrects gene transcription.
Why we only use damaging light indoors.

[27:45] How to Get Energy from Light

How we can satisfy 70% of our caloric needs through sunlight.
Dr. Steven Young
Samuel B. Lee
The benefits of sun gazing.
How we can produce our own energy when we live in alignment with who we truly are.
Why we get the benefits of near-infrared light from the sun even on a cloudy day.

[33:15] Light + Heat for Optimal Health + Recovery

How photobiomodulation supports the healing of traumatic brain injuries.
Why light therapy repairs cells and how cells work collectively.
How red light therapy helps people heal from stroke.
Why heat corrects protein folding.
How frequent use of sauna reduces the risk of dementia.

[38:10] How to Be Your Authentic Self

Why attaching to our programming harms us.
How light removes toxins and reactivates cellular rejuvenation.
hat it takes to become our best selves.
How spiritual and emotional work is an important component of healing.
Why our being naturally wants to be authentic.
How our guides only help us remember what we already know.
Why doing what's aligned with our highest purpose gives us more purpose and happiness.

[43:40] The Wounded Healer

Why a wounded healer should also focus on their own healing.
How the best healers continue to work on themselves.
Why curiosity and new experiences reprogram our brain.

[46:45] Are You Aware of Your Limitations?

How ayahuasca showed Josh that he's not been his true self.
Why Brian has been learning about himself through building his business.
How experiencing polarity helps us level up in the game.
Why we need to take care of the body in order to do the emotional and spiritual work.
How physical movement helped Brian realize he was avoiding his emotions.
Why taking care of the body has become more accessible to everyone.

[54:20] Detoxify Your Body

How modern stressors require us to take measures that our ancestors didn't need.
Why sauna helps detoxify from toxic chemicals.
How we are contaminated with genetically engineered e-coli.
Maria Crisler
How SaunaSpace and PMF help break up hydrogels in the body.
Why the CV-19 vaccine acts like snake venom.
Finding Joe (2011)
How being true to himself is important for Brian's personal wellness.
Why we always have a choice and we can find empowerment instead of victimhood.

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Power Quotes From The Show

Near-Infrared Light Can Heal Traumatic Brain Injuries

"When you have a TBI, you have damage to your nerve cells and your nervous system. The near-infrared light goes into the mitochondria in the brain cells and it promotes regeneration, healing, inflammation reduction, and also anti aging. It corrects the function of the cell itself by helping to re-establish connections and repair the interworking of all the cells together collectively." - Brian Richards

We Lack Sunlight

"The average American gets five to seven minutes of sunlight a day, just going out to the car on the way to work. We're really deprived of the things that keep us resilient and also allow us to be high frequency and multi-dimensional." - Brian Richards

Light Brings Your Back Into Yourself

"Light opens us up and brings us back into ourselves. When you go into the SaunaSpace, your thoughts just kind of melts, and you you get grounded back into yourself. It becomes a very transcendental experience. It's not just about healing, it's very meditative." - Brian Richards

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About Brian Richards

Red Light Therapy For Seasonal Affective Disorder (SAD) | Brian Richards Brian Richards is a nationally known expert in sauna therapy, light science, and EMF science.

In 2013, he founded SaunaSpace®, a company that combines cutting-edge incandescent infrared technology with the age-old practice of sauna.

In 2008, Brian faced an important health decision: start taking pharmaceuticals for insomnia, adrenal fatigue, and other health issues or try full-spectrum sauna therapy coupled with ancestral practices like a clean diet, proper sleep, and yoga.

By opting for the natural approach, Brian rapidly transformed his health. This life-changing experience inspired him to create SaunaSpace®.

In his journey to develop the perfect product, Brian has immersed himself in the science and research behind light, heat, electromagnetism, and the human body.

14 years later, he brings a refreshing approach to natural living, biohacking, and natural health transformation.

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0:00.0	The sun can actually satisfy up to 70% of your caloric needs.
0:04.5	Light is feeding us or we're being starved from it.
0:08.1	The average American gets like five, seven minutes of sunlight a day now,
0:11.3	like just going out to the car basically, going to work.
0:14.1	And we know that we're beings of light.
0:15.6	We're supposed to get this big dose of near-inferred light from the sun every day.
0:18.9	What I'm doing in sauna space is a recreation of basically our experience with the sun,
0:24.6	but I call it the firelight spectrum.
0:26.6	So it's the sun without ultraviolet light and blue light,
0:29.6	the extremely high frequency, high energy, damaging weight lengths.
0:32.6	It's the closest thing we can get to a fire without actually lighting a flame. Because of the light and the heat and the peace that is in there, you begin to remember,
0:43.8	wow, I'm healthy.
0:46.2	And your mind starts to heal and you become more clear.
0:52.2	So DNA creates light.
1:00.3	Go into that a little bit because the body is literally and figuratively emitting light.
1:03.7	The light of nature is the sun.
1:05.0	It's incandescent light. It's light that comes in this distribution of different wavelengths
1:11.0	that we were biologically programmed to love and enjoy.
1:15.9	And so what I've done is I've said,
1:18.3	let's try to use light as natural as possible
1:23.1	and keep it incandescent so that there's like,
1:25.4	just like the sun, there's a little bit of red,
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