Author and activist Brian McLaren joins us again, this time to explore how we navigate the many current crises humanity is facing. He reflects on the role of art, spirituality, and indigenous teaching in fostering the wisdom and resilience we’ll need as we try to imagine a new world. It’s a profound reflection on how we can confront humanity’s greatest challenges with courage and hope.

Following the interview Nomad hosts Tim Nash and Anna Robinson reflect on Brian’s insights and how facing the reality of the profound challenges humanity is facing, such as the climate crisis, has shaped their faith journey. 

Interview starts at 11m 25s 

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