Welcome to Disordered. This is episode 101 of the podcast. Today we're talking about breathing anxiety or breath-focused anxiety, anxiety driven by a focus, a laser focus, or an obsession on the breath or the process of breathing. It's a really common problem and a common struggle in the community surrounding the Disordered podcast. People are struggling with anxiety disorders and chronic anxiety. Josh and I have a very special guest on today to help us talk about breathing anxiety and how we might best approach it. Some of it's going to sound familiar. She also had some really great things to add. So we will get to that in a minute. Yes, the episode looks a little different today because I'm the only one recording the intro and the outro, but that's okay. It's really about the interview we did with Dr. Amy Jans and Claude, who are going to bring on in a second. If you're not sure about the host of Disordered, that's me, Drew Lin Salada and my co-host Joshua Fletcher. Just go to Disorder.com, and you can learn about us. I'm not going to do intros on my own here because that would be weird. Let's talk about breathing anxiety.

Let's get Dr. Amy Jans and Claude on. And then I'll pop back at the end to wrap it up. All right, all the way from the prairies of Canada. We do have Dr. Amy Jans and Claude with us. Amy, tell us about yourself. What do we need to know about you before we get into this?

Sounds good. Thank you. Yeah. So I am a clinical psychologist in Saskatchewan, Canada.

And I do a lot of work within the world of anxiety disorders and OCDN related disorders. So I guess that's why I'm here.

That is why you're here, as a matter of fact.

How did we find Dr. Jansen Gle? I don't remember.

I found Amy a while back. One of those profiles on Instagram where you're just, like, you're annoyed that not as many people are seeing it because it's actual advice.

You know, like really good, ERP related advice, anxiety disorder informed.

And I really enjoy there, and there's like a nice comic spin on it as well, which I also enjoy.

So I've been following him for a while and we'll give her the details of

stuff later on. But yeah, I saw a post about breathing and people misusing breathing.

And it was a really refreshing take on stuff because there's always like oh breathe stop grinds that and people kind of

we call it technicifying breathing on here and yeah so I just thought we'd invite Amy on to talk about

the topic of breathing which is something that we all do weirdly enough I'm not breathing now though

that's odd. No.

I thought you were going a bit blue.

Breathing is something that could be really, it's interesting.

One of my old Facebook group admins, Holly, she was great.

She used to say all the time, I turned my breathing into a total mess,

which is one of the greatest statements I've ever heard from an formerly anxious person

who talked about

her struggle with breathing.

...