we see a lot of that. So having a binder and having the right kind of binder is so important.

And then having detox pathways open. I mean, that's where working with a coach or being

in a group atmosphere like we offer at Provo Health and through gutsy health, it gives you the

knowledge because true informed consent truly is knowing the education, knowing the information,

and then making a decision. True

informed consent is that. And so we're giving you the knowledge and the power and the ability

to choose from that point. Welcome to the Gutsy Health Podcast where science meets soul and

healing becomes a reality. I'm Jean-Neke Rover, your guide on this transformative journey

to reclaiming your

health, vitality, and freedom. This season, we're diving deep into the order of healing,

starting with mindset and working through the layers of what it truly means to heal.

Each episode is designed to empower you with tools, knowledge, and hope so you can become

the self-healing advocate you were meant to be.

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Let's rewrite the future, one step, one insight, and one courageous choice at a time.

Now let's get gutsy.

Hey, everybody.

Welcome back to the Gutsi Health podcast.

Funny story.

Katie and I tried to record this earlier today, but I got interrupted so much by my baby.

I'm solo parenting this week, and it's been a wild ride.

But when we stopped recording, Katie started telling me about her health journey. And I was like, Katie, this is the podcast. Like your healing journey, so many people will relate to it. Because I mean, I love how you said, you ate like a model. Like you ate perfectly and still the inflammation didn't come down. Like the healing didn't happen. And you were like, as you were researching for this podcast,

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