Hello and welcome to episode number 54 of the Slow Home Podcast.

I normally say that the other way around, but changing it up a bit.

Yeah, there's nothing like changing it up.

Living on the Edge.

It's as good as a holiday.

I'm Brooke McCallory.

I'm Ben McCallory, and you're listening to the Slow Home podcast. Hi. How are you? Doing well. How are you? I'm really well. Thank you so much for talking to me today. Is that when you normally put the intro music? Absolutely. Thank you for having me. I'm excited. I know you've been on my list, my guest list for ages. And it was quite a time to continue on with uh introduce your lot to talk about discussion

with i think so too and i really appreciate that on garro

mr anthony ongaro this was such an awesome conversation i was going to jump right into it i

was watching one of your most recent videos which i really he's a blogger he writes at break

the twitch dot com and specifically writes about, you know, using

with people before and I wanted to dig into it a little bit.

You said, I tried buying happiness and then those little actions every day, adding up to

big changes.

So he and I are really on the same page with the idea of small changes.

I continue to be increased changes.

Yeah.

Incremented changes.

But it was just such a delight talking to Anthony.

I mean, so I knew that we had a similar kind of philosophy.

Buying happiness wasn't working for you.

But when I kind of dug a bit into his story and what it is that turned him on to you,

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