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bringing you conversations every single day that hopefully inspire you in your faith walk that deepen

your understanding of god's word and that heightens your awareness of his very real presence in your life. I remember when

I was a young teen, I was actually, I started to go to this Bible study and this guy and his wife

just became mentors because the whole faith thing was so brand new to me. Then I went to college and I

kind of had one foot in and one foot out and I started to date a guy that was not good for me. And I came home

from college, and I met the Bible study leader for lunch. He would check in with me about once a

month just to see how I was doing. And I talked a little bit about that relationship, and he said,

Susie, you have more potential in your pinky than I do in my whole body. But I'm not wasting my time with you if you're going to waste your time with him. It's him or me. And I said, you. And I knew it was time to

prune that relationship out of my life. And it was a hard decision, but it was exactly the right

decision. We're talking today about necessary endings. Dr. McLeod, Dr. Cloud, Henry Cloud,

sorry about that, wrote this book. And I'm almost positive.

I talked with him about this book, many years ago when it first came out. But we're doing what we call

a book talk today. So I've invited my friend Shannon Velser on the show. And she read this book

some time ago. I read it some time ago. And my hubby and I listened to the audio version several months ago. But I want to just read a little excerpt here before we dig in.

Dr. Henry Cloud says this. Without the ability to end things, people stay stuck, never becoming

who they're meant to be, never accomplishing all that their talents and abilities should afford

them. He says, you know, endings aren't a tragedy to be feared, but a necessary stage

on the way to growth. So before we dig in, I'm going to ask you,

because remember when you text in, it's sort of a love language for me, it helps me to know where

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