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Happy Place

Book Club Meets: Rekindling intimacy in marriage, with Josie Lloyd and Emlyn Rees

Happy Place

Fearne Cotton

Relationships, Society & Culture, Health & Fitness, Mental Health

4.715.6K Ratings

🗓️ 30 April 2026

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

Adam and Jules have been married for 25 years and are stuck in a bit of a rut. Adam stumbles across some old mixtapes he and Jules made for each other when they were young and falling in love, and when they play them... they get to travel back in time to different moments in their relationship. Will remembering the passion they used to have get the future of their relationship back on track, or will it just spark absolute chaos?


You & Me, You & Me, You & Me was our Happy Place Book Club pick for April. In this chat with Fearne, authors Josie Lloyd and Emlyn Rees – themselves a married couple – explain why they wanted to explore rekindling intimacy in the empty nest phase, and reveal how they write together on a practical level.


What do you reckon, if you could go back in time to tweak some of the decisions you’d made – would you? Maybe it would make you even more grateful for the happiness you have now...


Thank you to Vintage Digital for the use of the You & Me and You & Me and You & Me audiobook, narrated by Rory Kinnear and Sally Phillips.


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0:00.0

Dumb Dumb Dumb Dumb Dumb Dumb Dumb.

0:03.4

Hello, hello and welcome to the Happy Place Book Club with me, Fern Cotton.

0:09.4

An 81 hit, but recorded on here as the opening track

0:12.5

because it was having a total revival in the Brighton Sixth Form indie discos in 89.

0:18.2

Today, you and me, you and me, you and me.

0:22.3

By Josie Lloyd and Emlyn Reese.

0:24.9

Leaving me feeling anxious and happy and nostalgic all at once.

0:29.5

And suddenly so bloody young again it makes me want to weep.

0:32.6

Because we had it all back then, didn't we? Jules and me, we had everything ahead of us.

0:37.4

We hadn't screwed

0:38.1

anything up. It's like I can feel the music pumping right through me now, like it's somehow

0:43.3

charging my very soul as tears of loss and something like homesickness streamed down my cheeks.

0:50.4

I can't stop looking at the tapes, twin spindles as they keep on turning, staring back

0:55.2

at me like a pair of hypnotic eyes round and round and round and round and round.

1:02.7

Then I'm jolted by a thunderous crash and a blinding flash of lightning obliterates

1:08.1

the square of black night sky framed by the shed window,

1:11.4

and I feel my whole universe shake.

1:14.9

Next thing, what the hell?

1:16.5

It's me turning round and round and round, faster and faster, like I'm going to break.

1:22.9

In a hideous whirlwind of coloured lights and rushing wind,

1:26.1

and all the while with filled bloody oaky singing

1:28.5

don't you want me over and over again until twisting pulling back desperately trying and failing

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