And one of the things it speaks to is that McDuro through all of this was really successful in terms of maintaining power.

He did not succumb to the sanctions.

He did not succumb to Juan Guaido.

He did not succumb to any sort of rumors within the military.

He seemed to have a lock on the military.

And that seemed to continue through last night, basically.

I mean, I think if you talked to Venezuela experts

until midnight last night, they would have said

the Venezuelan military is pretty solidly behind Maduro.

There was no public signs of any crack, of any split.

Obviously, now we know that that wasn't entirely the case.

There must have been some military factions, some within Medodo's inner circle as well.

Sure seems that way.

Yeah, I mean, this couldn't have gone down. You know, this is not a totally peaceful coup,

but it's a relatively, you know, limited bloodshed, we could say. As of now, there's been,

you know, 40 casualties, which is not a huge amount in, you know, compared to Allende and the

Argentine dirty war in the 1970s, of course. But, you know, Maduro, he was really successful

for a long time, but the pressure, you know,

we can get to the last couple months now, maybe, and the pressure in the last couple months has been

relentless. And, you know, it took a couple of forms. Of course, there was the boat bombing campaign,

which has, you know, domestic roots in terms of Trump's immigration policy and the desire to sort of deport

Venezuelans and whip up anti-immigrant sort of hysteria within the United States. There's this

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