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Gender Reveal

Bonus: Jeanne Thornton

Gender Reveal

Tuck Woodstock

Lgbtq, Documentary, Queer, Personal Journals, Gender, Nonbinary, Society & Culture, Genderqueer, Transgender, Trans

4.81.3K Ratings

🗓️ 31 March 2025

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Summary

Happy Trans Day of Having a Nice Snack! In this bonus episode, Tuck and Ozzy chat with author Jeanne Thornton (she/her) about ‘90s chatrooms, masking quizzes, community open mics, second-person narration, a possible Plot Conflict Trans Misery Industrial Complex, and hidden crossover events in the Jeanne Thornton literary universe.

Listen to the full episode on Patreon to hear discussions of Topside Press goss, job interview horror stories, trans motherhood advice, Jeanne & Anton’s friendship origin story, and whether the ending of A/S/L is “ontologically evil” lol.

Grab our Trans Day of Snack graphic here. 

Find Jeanne @jeanneticallymodified and at jeannethornton.com and instarbooks.com, and at World Transsexual Forum every fourth Monday at Franklin Park. A/S/L is available from Soho Press.

Come see Gender Ordeal on tour in Chicago and Minneapolis in April! 

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Senior Producer: Ozzy Llinas Goodman
Logo: Ira M. Leigh
Music: Breakmaster Cylinder
Additional Music: Blue Dot Sessions

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to Gender Reveal, a podcast where we hopefully get a little bit closer to understanding what the hell gender is. I'm your host

0:22.3

and resident gender detective, Chuck Woodstock.

0:33.6

Hey everyone. Hope you've all been hanging in there. And I hope you're eating something nice because today, March 31st, is, of course, Trans Day of having a nice snack.

0:42.3

You may have heard on previous podcast episodes that this year we are not doing our usual thing of collecting a big pot of money and then Venmoing like every individual trans person.

0:51.3

Instead, I've created a silly little graphic that you can fill out to kind of just

0:56.0

request a snack from the world. So there is a link in the show notes to that. And if you are listening

1:01.9

to this on March 31st and you are transgender, go ahead, fill that out, post it somewhere,

1:07.9

anywhere really, and see how it goes. I hope you get something nice.

1:16.1

Anyway, you're probably familiar with gender conceal, our bonus podcast made exclusively for our patrons. Today on the show, I am really excited to share an excerpt of this month's

1:20.2

gender conceal episode, which features author and editor Gene Thornton. You might know Gene as

1:25.4

the author of Summer Fun or as a co-host of World Transsexual

1:28.8

Forum, the Brooklyn Open Mic, or as a co-editor of the All-Trans Comics Anthology, we're still here.

1:35.0

In this episode, Ozzie and I talk with Dean about her new book, ASL. By the way, that's a slash

1:40.9

S-slash-L, like age-sex sex location in old school chat rooms, not like American

1:45.5

sign language. Anyway, we talk about the book ASL, which comes out tomorrow, April 1st. We also talk

1:51.9

about 90s teen chat rooms, autism masking, second person narration, and the possibility of

1:57.7

something called the plot conflict transmissory industrial complex.

2:05.5

If you enjoyed this little teaser, by the way, you can join us at patreon.com slash gender to access the full episode, which also includes discussion of job interview horror stories,

2:12.4

a really fun lightning round of just like a bazillion little questions from me in Ozzy.

2:17.1

Also, Gene and Anton

2:18.4

Salomonix friendship origin story, which is really cute. And whether the ending of ASL is

2:24.7

ontologically evil. But before we get to that, just a quick reminder, me, Maddie Lubchanski,

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