Body-ody-ody of Evidence
Judge John Hodgman
Jesse Thorn
4.8 • 7.9K Ratings
🗓️ 25 February 2026
⏱️ 60 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Judge John Hodgman podcast. I'm bailiff Jesse Thorne. This week, body-oddy-oddy of evidence. |
| 0:09.0 | Andy brings the case against his fiance, Kevin. Andy met Kevin outside DragCon in New York City back in 2018. |
| 0:17.4 | Andy was enchanted. Their first date didn't happen for another few years, but for Andy, this meeting is a crucial part of their love story. The only problem? Kevin says it never happened. Who's right, who's wrong? Only one can decide. Please rise as Judge John Hodgman enters the courtroom and presents an obscure cultural reference. |
| 0:41.3 | What you did was impulsive, capricious, and melodramatic, but it was also wrong. |
| 0:49.1 | bailiff, Jesse Thorne, please swear the litigants in. |
| 0:51.3 | Andy, Kevin, please rise and raise your right hands. |
| 0:53.6 | You swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. So help you, God or whatever. Yes, God. I do. Do you swear to abide by Judge John Hodgman's ruling, despite the fact that he met his wife, who is a whole human being in her own right, inside drag con, rather than outside. |
| 1:12.5 | Sure. |
| 1:13.2 | Yes. |
| 1:13.7 | I don't know. |
| 1:14.7 | Judge Hodgman, you may proceed. |
| 1:18.9 | Okay. |
| 1:20.0 | Kevin and Andy, you may be seated. |
| 1:21.2 | Before we begin, with the guess of the obscure cultural reference, it's notable that, indeed, |
| 1:27.3 | this dispute is centered around drag con. |
| 1:30.3 | I only, I met my wife as a whole human being in her own right at the drag con that is known as Brookline High School. |
| 1:35.5 | Oh. |
| 1:35.7 | This is the real drag con where Kevin and Andy met. |
| 1:38.7 | And there's a reason for it because Kevin is not just Kevin, but is also one of the premier drag queens in the world. |
| 1:47.5 | You may know her as Monet Exchange. |
| 1:49.8 | I would say one of them. |
| 1:50.5 | I would say the judge, the premier drag queen of the world. |
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