Well done. You've sorted through the embarrassment of riches that is the modern podcast landscape

and found me Rob Briden on my podcast. In this series of Briden and I talk to among

others Harry Hill, Ben Elton, Charlotte Church, Steve Cougan and Dame Harriet Walter.

And that's just a few. We tend to chat for about 45 minutes to an hour never longer.

It's terrific conversation, reminiscent where appropriate and exchange of anecdotes.

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I've been looking forward to this one for a while. Bob Roth is the guy who teaches

Transcendental Meditation to lots of very, very, very well-known people, including George

Stephanopoulos and Robin Roberts, both previous guests on this podcast. David Letterman and

so many celebrities such a cavalcade of stars. I can't even begin to list them all, but

we'll hear him talk about it a little bit. And I've met him one time before we had lunch

about a year ago. And we had a very frank conversation at that time because there is,

for a variety of reasons, some level of distrust or suspicion on the part of some in the meditation

tradition out of which I emerge Buddhism slash secular mindfulness about TM Transcendental

Meditation, which kind of emerges out of Hindu or Vedic meditation. And there have been

critical books written about TM by former members that have helped fuel some of the aforementioned

skepticism, cynicism, suspicion that I was talking about. Including actually, you might

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