Hello, this is Everything else, the FT Culture Podcast.

I'm Grizz, commissioning arts editor.

And I'm Lila, the FD's community editor.

Coming up on today's show, I'm heading back to Soho in central London.

This time, to meet the two creators of the Netflix sensation, Black Mirror,

Charlie Brooker and Annabelle Jones.

I'm hoping to find out what goes into creating a show like Black Mirror,

what they think about our relationship to technology now,

and whether Charlie Brooker is as grumpy in real life as his public persona suggests.

We'll also be talking to the FT's fashion editor, Joe Ellison, who just got back from Paris, where she met Rihanna,

and wrote a feature on her fashion line for FT Weekend.

Joe is going to bring us behind the interview and tell Grizz what it's like for a journalist to get 20 minutes with pop royalty.

But before any of that, the most important part of the show, I'm so excited to have a new co-host for the podcast, Lila Raptopoulos.

Hi, Gris. I am a long-time listener to everything else, so I'm thrilled to be here.

It must be slightly surreal, actually, to suddenly be in the hot seat.

It is. It feels like, you know, long-time listener, first-time co-host.

So we worked together for a bit when you were in the FTs London office, but you're now speaking to me from New York.

I am, yeah. So I'm the community editor at the FT, and I also write features occasionally for

FT Weekend, Culture Features. I was in the London office for about three years, and I just

moved back to New York. And I think that's part of what will make this fun.

London and New York are these like powerful cultural centers, but they're often really different

in sort of funny ways, which I have been watching from afar now. And I'm excited to see what

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