Hey, everyone. Welcome to the What is Money Show. I'm sitting down today with a very popular figure in the Bitcoin space. Mr. Plan B. Plan B, welcome to the show.

Thank you, Robert.

Glad to have you here.

We've been talking about this for a few weeks,

and I think, you know, as we're recording this

in mid-January, 2022,

I think it's an apt discussion to be had in regard to Bitcoin price and Bitcoin

price action and the possibility of any intervention or even suppression into the marketplace.

So I know you've got a deep knowledge of futures markets.

You know, you've got quite the stored career, I think, in financial markets.

So maybe we could just start talking about gold, like the price of gold historically,

how that has, you know, deviated from pure supply

demand fundamentals, I guess you might say, just to set the stage for our discussion on

Bitcoin. Sure, sure. Well, maybe first off, I'm not a gold expert. So I traded and invested in a lot of assets

professionally as an institutional investor, mainly fixed income and bonds, mortgages, etc. Equities,

a lot of derivatives and structured finance products.

So gold was never on the balance sheet.

But I am an old gold bug.

So I had exposure to gold myself and followed the market since, well, I think the 1990s actively.

Yeah, gold is a very interesting market because if we go back, well, like 100 years, for example, all the fiat currencies

were, and especially the US dollar, of course, was coupled to gold.

So the price of the US dollar was actually the number of grams in gold or silver.

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