Hi everyone. I'm senior producer Elizabeth Nakano. Today, we've got a bonus episode for you. We'll be back next week with Chapter 4. Throughout our reporting,

writing, and editing, we found little bits of stories that didn't find a home, but we thought

they were super cool. In Chapter 3, we met Randy Levitt, who bolted and envisioned the Chris Sharma

test piece Jumbo Love. If there were a Hall of Fame for rock climbing, Randy would be in it.

He's established 514 Trad, 514 Sport, A5 Big Walls, and was the first person to climb and then

base jump off Lcap. He's one of the few climbers who has an actual climbing move named after him,

Levitation. And it was developed not in Yosemite Valley,

but in the suburban sprawl of San Fernando Valley in a bank parking garage in collaboration with

his regular climbing partner, the also legendary Tony Yoniro.

Music I saw a story about you and a story about you and Tony Niro climbing in a Wells Fargo parking structure.

Is that a, you know, practicing crack climbing. Is that a

thing? Can you talk me through that? Crack climbing has very specific muscle groups. And things like

that needs to be really strengthened and hardened for better crack climbing. So we would actually

make machines or devices, ladders and different types of devices

where we could strengthen those muscles. But ultimately, if you could actually find cracks to

train on, that was the best. And we found this banking. It was the Wells Fargo Bank. It's in San Fernando

Valley. It still exists. It's in San Fernando Valley.

It still exists.

It's still there.

And they had all these cracks that were support beams in the concrete.

And they were basically spacers, a giant concrete headers to hold up the parking structure.

And some of them were hand size.

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