Billy Bragg and Ash Sarkar on England, the Euros and patriotism - LIVE SHOW
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🗓️ 11 July 2021
⏱️ 51 minutes
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With the hopes of millions across England - and beyond - invested in the Euro 2020 final, we are joined by Billy Bragg and Ash Sarkar for a very special programme on the cultural significance - and what this tells us about our identity.
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| 0:00.0 | Last, last, last, last. I won't do that again. It's already incredibly cringe. This, I mean, |
| 0:12.2 | I am, I think the poster boy of modern English ladishness. We've got very specials |
| 0:16.8 | today. I'm not sure, like, it's from me home that the title could, it could age poorly within |
| 0:22.8 | hours. Like, could be quite an unfortunate title, but I'm, I'm optimistic. I'm feeling good. |
| 0:28.1 | Now, I know some of you are thinking, well, this is just a cynical and desperate attempt to |
| 0:33.2 | jump on a bandwagon in order to cruelly shoehorn in some points about the left and identity and |
| 0:40.4 | patriotism. And you'd be absolutely right. Yeah. Well, what, I mean, what else, we're not going to |
| 0:45.3 | do another one about COVID. It's a happy day. So we might as well do something, you know, |
| 0:51.2 | getting into the spirit of things. So I'm not going to talk very much now because I don't really know |
| 0:57.2 | what I'm talking about. That's why I've got two experts in who, who do. That's enough, |
| 1:02.0 | that's enough babbling. We've got a great show to go ahead. So I'm going to bring in the wonderful, |
| 1:06.4 | the magnificent Billy Bragg and Saga. Hello. Hello. Hey, hey. This Sugar Bakes reboot needs work. |
| 1:15.9 | Yeah, it's true. I didn't do that. Not a bad idea. Let's do it. The Sugar Bakes revival, |
| 1:23.8 | Meet Billy and Ash. I can see it. How are we feeling pretty ponds? Billy believes, obviously, |
| 1:28.8 | more in the spirit than I'm doing my best. I'm doing my best. Yeah. I'm kind of, I'll be |
| 1:34.4 | have to watch it. I'm on my own on the sofa with my partner. So I'm trying to get into the mood |
| 1:39.6 | of the day, doing my chores in England, 1966 shirt. I'm going to call it, what are you now calling |
| 1:45.0 | Billy? What? Yeah. Three three lines on my shirt. Yeah. I saw it today on Twitter. I thought |
| 1:55.8 | that's really good. That's the kind of like the wonk version of the lines. I do love, I do love |
| 2:04.8 | how they have to keep saying the men's football team. Because the women's football team, because |
| 2:08.9 | have been in a work-up final before twice, I think. So it's great that it's kind of like now as |
| 2:13.4 | to be on the men's football team. It's not doing so well, whether women's football team |
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