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The Bulwark Podcast

Bill Kristol: Trump Is Humiliating Us

The Bulwark Podcast

The Bulwark

News, Society & Culture, Politics, News Commentary

4.6 • 11.6K Ratings

🗓️ 19 January 2026

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

The president's demented rant that the United States has to take Greenland because the Nobel committee has not awarded him his much coveted peace prize is farcical and embarrassing—we are in 25th Amendment territory. At the same time, Trump's alternate claim that conquering the island is about being tough on Russia is so phony since he's busy trying to help give Ukraine to Putin. Meanwhile, ICE agents' constant videotaping of members of the public may be tied to their use of facial recognition software. Plus, in this particularly horrible period of news, we are remembering the hope and optimism that pushed Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. to fight for a better America.

Bill Kristol joins Tim Miller.

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the Bullwark podcast. I'm your host, Tim Miller. It's Martin Luther King Day. We're here with you. Hopefully you are having a restful holiday or a non-restful protest-filled

0:23.8

holiday. Either of those are acceptable. Hopefully you're not working. A couple of notes really quick.

0:28.5

So Saturday night, I taped a discussion with Chris Ostrusko, who's the angry guy. He's branded himself

0:35.2

as Minnesota Angry Man, which I like that branding, who we played

0:39.7

at length his rant from the streets of Minnesota last week on the pod. I was happy to talk to him.

0:46.5

You can check that out in the board, takes feed. Also, it's wonderful feedback about Friday's

0:50.7

pod with Wright Thompson. If you skip that, give it a listen. And also, you know, it's maybe the kind of pod that's a little bit off of the news enough.

0:59.3

If you've got a friend in your life, you want to introduce to the bulwark,

1:02.1

might be a good one to share with them.

1:03.8

And the Monday mailbag, it's coming back soon, I promise.

1:06.1

We're just working on getting that right for you all.

1:08.6

So it's Monday.

1:10.3

It's a holiday he doesn't care he's working it's

1:12.2

at a large bill crystal how you doing bill this isn't really work you know this is just this is if this

1:17.0

is a great point this for work everyone would like work you know that's a great point you know

1:21.9

you and me together again you know so happy together okay anyway um the news is Yeah, the news is bad. Not so happy. Not so happy together. Happy to be with you, Tim. Needless to say, good, of course. We're going to start with the imminent invasion of Greenland, I guess. I mean, this is like the kind of thing that if it had been of, you know, in the writer's room at VEP, people would like pitch this.

1:46.9

So, this is too much.

1:48.2

Okay.

1:48.6

Like, this is like not even Selena Meyer would go along with this.

1:51.3

But the real life president is, I just want to read a couple of things because it's important to actually like read the exact text of the official statement of the President of the United States about this.

2:02.3

This first one came Saturday and he writes this,

2:05.3

we have subsidized Denmark by not charging them tariffs or other forms of remuneration.

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