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The Bulwark Podcast

Wright Thompson: The Ghosts of Mississippi

The Bulwark Podcast

The Bulwark

News, Politics, Society & Culture, News Commentary

4.6 • 11.6K Ratings

🗓️ 16 January 2026

⏱️ 68 minutes

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Summary

Official Mississippi doesn't really want to talk about the murder of Emmett Till—or teach about the murder of Emmett Till. Almost 71 years later, the intentional attempt to erase the crime lives on. On this MLK Day weekend, Wright joins Tim to discuss the role of history and black history in our public consciousness. Meanwhile, Trump and MAGA are busy trying to rewrite the history of modern-day political violence, including the thuggery of ICE agents. Plus, a ranking of the best SEC college towns, a tribute to Bob Weir, the impact of tariffs on farmers—as well as this year's Mardi Gras— and even the White House is starting to get concerned about the optics of Trump's deportation operation.

 ESPN's Wright Thompson joins Tim Miller for the holiday weekend pod.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey, everybody. It's Tim Mone from The Bullwork. I'm so excited to bring our guest for today to you here in a minute.

0:07.8

Wright Thompson is the guy I've been reading about for a long time. And one of my favorite books the past couple of years is his book, The Barn, about basically the 30-ish square miles around the barn where Emmett Till was murdered.

0:22.8

It's an area that he grew up in and still lives in Mississippi. And I thought that would be just a really interesting conversation

0:29.4

for the Martin Luther King holiday weekend. And also, as you'll see, there's just a ton of echoes

0:34.8

and lessons from that period that I think are

0:38.6

resonating right now. He also just tells a wonderful story about his mother that I think is

0:46.2

going to give a lot of you some laughter and comfort and steal you to keep getting in those

0:52.5

Facebook comments section wars.

0:54.6

So stick around for all of that.

0:56.7

Right is great.

0:57.5

I wanted to do a quick news thing at the top because there's just so much happening.

1:01.3

And so here's like a little brief news potpourri and Tim's hot takes.

1:07.4

And then we'll get you to write.

1:08.9

The first thing is Maria Carina Machado went to the White House yesterday

1:13.8

to give Donald Trump the medal, her Nobel Peace Prize medal.

1:19.8

Got to say, it feels like this is a little too, little too late for Maria Machado.

1:24.8

I mean, Donald Trump likes trophies, but things are already moving down the tracks

1:30.3

as far as him garnishing, confiscating, stealing the oil from Venezuela and putting it in a bank

1:36.0

account in Qatar and letting the communist Chevista still run the country. So Donald Trump doesn't

1:41.8

really seem to care a lot about, you know, freedom and the other things that Machado was talking about. I think maybe she was hoping that he would care about the trophy so much. But I think Donald Trump's kind of the person that says, hey, great, thank you. I appreciate the trophy. I'm going to keep it. I'm going to put it in my trophy room and then not do anything for you. That'd, that'd be kind of my assessment of Donald Trump's

2:01.4

character. I do have to mention that she gave him the medal in this kind of framed, it sort of

2:09.0

looked like somebody ran to Michaels, like an hour before the event and had the metal framed

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