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The Bulwark Podcast

Bill Kristol: Trump Has Lost the Plot

The Bulwark Podcast

The Bulwark

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.68.9K Ratings

🗓️ 29 December 2025

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

After a campaign built on the promise that Trump was going to look out for his voters, he started his administration getting sidetracked by DOGE and Musk's phony ideas about saving money. After that petered out, he got distracted by his need to put his name all over the place. In the process, he's totally forgotten to help his people—or even fake trying to help them. Meanwhile, Trump is trapped in a Groundhog Day of his own making on Ukraine-Russia. Plus, his bruising has now moved to his left hand, Melania can't speak English, the DOJ is still working to find the 'real' people who made the rioters descend on the Capitol, the withholding of information in the Epstein case is worse than the redactions, and Dems need to forcefully call out the Medicaid fraud in Minnesota.

Bill Kristol joins Tim Miller.

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the Bullwark podcast. I'm your host Tim Miller. We are back post-Christmas

0:18.1

break. Bill Crystal, I saw you notice that our Department of Homeland Security wished everyone a Merry Christmas and said we are blessed to share a nation and a savior, which isn't quite right, I don't think. But the Merry Christmas part was okay.

0:32.9

Yeah. Well, now we can say that again. We couldn't say that during Biden. so it's nice to be able to wish my non-Jewish neighbors,

0:40.8

most of whom are non-Jewish.

0:42.0

I would say, you know, Merry Christmas.

0:43.2

And even some of the Jews wish each other Merry Christmas sometimes.

0:46.4

Why shouldn't we enjoy?

0:48.3

Well, as someone wrote a good piece on the bulwarks website, it's kind of an American holiday

0:52.8

at this point, almost a secular holiday as well as a religious one, right? So that's fine. That's fine. I felt that way. Santa, for example, not in the Bible, right? Shocking. Really? Yeah, I was talking to Sam Stein about this, and Santa does not come to the Stein household. I was like, why not? Yeah, we don't do that either.

1:28.8

I don't know. It's different people have different customs. But yeah. Okay. All right. We're exhausted giving them the, unfortunately, or fortunately, Hanukkah, which is a minor Jewish holiday, of course, but it's become bigger because of it's partly based with proximity to Christmas. It's eight days. So we're exhausted the science and the crystals from giving the kids eight days of presents. So it's like the last thing we need is Santa coming. But of course,

1:34.4

the 12 days of Christmas, that's people don't really observe that, right? That's a thing from the

1:38.5

I mean, it's a wonderful song performed by the by the bulwark choir there people should take a look at that

1:45.8

organized by katherine i don't think i was that impressive i was there to make everyone else look good

1:51.0

and and of course agger was there to be to show that there is a genuine star on the bull in the

1:56.8

bulwark yeah yeah i can sing we'll put that in the show notes apparently he was in the Hillsdale, Abraham Lincoln Choir. We learned over the break. Speaking of Eager, here's a nice newsletter. It looks like you were off this morning. Yeah. Despite, you know, I don't know. You could have worked. I contributed behind the scenes. There's a lot of subtle heading that people aren't catching up on. Well, Andrew Eger wrote the morning shots this morning, and thank goodness, because it was wonderful.

2:20.1

And he wrote... That people aren't catching up on. Well, Andrew Eger wrote the morning shot this morning, and thank goodness, because it was wonderful.

2:20.3

And he wrote about going home for Christmas, and he's going back to Iowa.

2:25.4

And his family is more conservative and has some Trump voters in there.

2:29.4

And he writes about how like it, but it isn't contentious.

2:32.5

I was surprised to learn this about him a couple of months ago we were talking about this.

2:35.0

He's like, they have a family text chain where they text about politics.

2:38.9

It seems very healthy, actually.

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