Bill Kristol: The Preposterous and Ridiculous Lies About the FBI

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Politics, News, News Commentary

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🗓️ 6 January 2025

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

Kash Patel's Jan 6 lie requires FBI officials to have been able to see into the future: to *know* that Trump would lose in 2020 and then try to get Congress to reverse the election results. And they also would have to have known they could get thousands of people to attack the Capitol—just to make MAGA look bad. Are GOP senators really going to clear this conspiracy theorist extraordinaire to run the bureau? Plus, the martyrology around Jan 6 and the mass exodus of journalists from The Washington Post. Bill Kristol joins Tim Miller.

show notes:

Tom Jocelyn and Norm Eisen on Kash
Sgt. Gonell's reflection on Jan 6
Michael Kruse on Al Gore and Mike Pence

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0:00.0	All right, hey, guys, a few programming notes on this January 6th anniversary before we get to Bill.
0:05.3	The first, we are launching a newsletter this week focused on the Trump immigration regime.
0:10.8	It's going to be led by Adrian Caraschillo.
0:13.0	Love Adrian.
0:13.8	I've been working with him for a long time.
0:15.5	He's a great reporter, and he's great for this.
0:18.7	He knows the immigration beat.
0:20.6	He's been doing this for a while and just
0:22.5	glad to have somebody of his caliber on one of what might be the most important or maybe
0:27.8	top two or three most important issues of the Trump administration. The newsletter is going to be
0:32.9	called huddled masses. I'll be out twice a week. You can sign up at thebolic.com slash subscribe if you
0:39.3	haven't. Former congressional candidate John Avlon has been in the extended Bullock fam for a while now.
0:45.1	Has a new pod series we're hosting called How to Fix It. The first episode of this season is out on
0:50.5	civics education. Some folks have given us feedback. They're looking for more off the news
0:56.3	and have solutions oriented content. I totally get that. And I'm glad John is going to be taking
1:03.1	that on and providing it. So the first episode of that is already out how to fix it with John
1:07.8	Avlon. Number three, we're leaning into YouTube this year. We've been
1:11.4	leaning into it. But me and Sam and others are going to be doing some interviews and hot takes that
1:15.8	don't fit the daily pod schedule. I know a lot of you guys are kind of in a, you're in a routine.
1:20.6	I've got this routine with other pods where you know, you got your afternoon. It's a daily.
1:25.0	And so when there are other things that don't really fit that schedule,
1:27.9	either because of breaking news or because it's kind of a niche topic or somebody wrote an
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