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The Bulwark Podcast

Charlie Warzel: Zuck Sucks Up to Trump

The Bulwark Podcast

The Bulwark

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.68.9K Ratings

🗓️ 7 January 2025

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

Mark Zuckerberg is doing all he can to get an audience with the big man at Mar-a-Lago, including praising Trump's (faux) free speech bona fides and restructuring Meta to eliminate fact-checking. Maybe it's because Zuck wants to show his middle finger to the mean tech reporters—or maybe it's because Trump threatened to imprison Zuck. Plus, the conspiracies around Jan 6 v 9/11, and the potential threat to our financial system from crypto. 

Charlie Warzel joins Tim Miller.
show notes:

Charlie's piece on internet brain rot
Charlie's piece on crypto and the potential nightmare in Trump 2.0

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the Bullwark podcast.

0:09.9

I'm your host Tim Miller.

0:11.6

We've got the perfect guest for today's Facebook news.

0:15.5

Charlie Warzel, he's staff writer at the Atlantic, author of the newsletter Galaxy

0:19.7

Brain about technology, media,

0:21.7

and big ideas.

0:23.3

He's also the co-author of Out of Office, The Big Problem and Big Promise of Working from Home.

0:29.6

That's not on our to do list today.

0:31.0

We have too much to discuss to discuss my working from home thoughts, but maybe another day.

0:34.7

How you doing, Charlie?

0:35.7

I'm doing great.

0:36.4

Thanks for having me.

0:37.3

I initially had reached out because you had an awesome article about crypto.

0:41.6

And I was like, I want to do a crypto episode with Charlie.

0:44.4

And, you know, the news, God said other ideas.

0:46.6

We'll get to crypto at the end for people dying to hear our hot takes about, you know, Ethereum.

0:52.0

But Mark Zuckerberg is out with some news this morning. And I just want to

0:57.3

read exactly what the announcement is from Facebook. So we can make sure to get it right here.

1:03.0

He is replacing, not that that matters anymore, but he is replacing fact checkers with community

1:09.3

notes in the model of Twitter.

1:11.7

That's number one.

1:18.6

Number two, simplifying content policies to remove restrictions on topics like immigration and gender that are out of touch with the mainstream discourse.

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