And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

What's up everybody DJ Bucky here for move the sticks coming off a what called a snoozer

buck we call that Monday night football game a little bit of a snooze.

Yeah, that was that was that was the Bengals man that was tough to stay engaged in that

one that was that was that was that was that was really for the love that was for

the love of the game. If you watched all four quarters of that you really loved the

game because you're a better man to me. You didn't get it. You didn't get a competitive

match. Not the match that you wanted to see. Yeah, we're going to get into that game

a little bit. We won't spend too much time there. Some other ground we want to cover

today including a discussion that I enjoy is in the scouting side of things is how do you

differentiate between scouting the player versus scouting the scheme and don't get caught

up and make a mistake. Gonna have a good conversation there about Gardner Menshu and some other

players and around that whole topic I think is really fascinating. We've got a great

guest, Bill Keenist. One of the things that's cool about this podcast I like introducing

you guys to people that I've known for a while. Bill Keenist was the PR director there

for the Detroit Lions for a long time. He's been with the Lions since 1985 and now his

official title is he's a team historian. So people ask, well, you know, look, you guys

really focus on the scouting side of things. You know, why have a PR guy on well Bill Keenist

has been around Barry Sanders, one of the all time great's been around Calvin Johnson,

one of the all time great's. Want to find out what makes those guys tick not only on

the field but off the field and what made them special as well as I think he's got a unique

insight, you know, through some of the down years they've had their in Detroit and what

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