Welcome back to CforuCast everyone. I'm finally back to work after a three-week hiatus and I have got a super cool crew here with me, which is Mike, J.R. and J.P. from BigChino Outfitters. Thanks for making the trip up guys.

Thanks for having us.

Yeah, for sure. Thank you.

Yeah, no problem.

So you guys just for anybody that hasn't heard of you, you guys run an outfitting business in Arizona and I guess how long has that been, how long you guys been in business?

You know, we actually I started guiding in 1987, you know, long, long time ago and created that BigChino Outfitters.

So most of the stuff we did was in that BigChino Valley, you know, originally and that's how we kind of came up with BigChino. So yeah, I've been kind of in and out of that for, you know, I worked for some folks in the 80s and then kind of went on our own, you know, shortly thereafter.

You are now how old?

Not yet.

I'm the old guy in the, I did now I'm 56.

So and then Mike, how are you? I'll be 34 in a couple weeks in junior. I just turned 29 and March 2nd.

Gotcha. So you're kind of, this is you're kind of in a transitional period passing off the torts now.

Yeah, yeah, you're retired.

Exactly. You know, I'm not so much going to retire shit. I mean, I have retired from the, you know, from the fire department out of Arizona, but in Prescott.

But yeah, you know, I mean, it's a family business. I mean, you know, these boys grew up, you know, hunting and loving the outdoors.

And so yeah, absolutely. You know, I'm trying to do this transition into these guys, take it over.

And maybe I can take a different role. But you know, when it's in your blood, you know, what do you do?

Yeah, what, and I had met kind of a brief kind of history. I met you at tech in Colorado.

And we just started shooting a shit about coming down and, you know, hunting with you guys. And one of the things that I guess will start off as you guys had gotten in some trouble.

And I had asked you about that. And when you gave me the very brief description, I was like, huh, that's wild. And as I got to know you guys even more, I literally was

scared shitless because what you guys got in trouble for I've done many times. And I was like, holy shit, would you guys mind getting on a podcast and talking about this?

Because you guys to me never cried really a poor pitiful me. You never, I guess I would say I've talked to other people that got jammed up that were like, you know, everyone was against me where you guys were like, more or less like fuck, we didn't even really know that that was illegal to a certain degree.

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