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Welcome to another episode of Conversations with Coleman. My guest today is Ian Rowe.

Ian is a senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute and the founder of Vertex Partnership Academies. He's also an educator who ran a charter school called Public Prep in the South Bronx for many years. In this episode, we discuss his new book, Agency. We talk about the obstacles that face low-income black and Hispanic kids at the schools that Ian teaches in.

We discuss the problems with the narratives handed to these kids by both the left and the right,

what Ian calls the blame the system mindset and the blame the victim mindset, respectively.

We talk about the challenges faced by charter schools in general and the political opposition they face.

We talk about the role of religion and upward mobility and much more.

So without further ado, Ian Rowe.

Okay, Ian Rowe. Thanks so much for coming on my show.

Hey, man. It's good to see you. I've been looking forward to it.

Yeah, I have for a while too. And we're going to talk about your great and necessary book called Agency, which came out a few months ago.

But before we do, I want to give my listeners who may or may not be familiar with you.

Some of them may have heard you on the Glenn Show, I think you've been on.

Yeah, I have.

Right?

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