Hey guys and welcome to episode 85 at the OCD stories.com podcast.

Now in this episode I took time to interview Jeff Bowe and Charla nicely

so OCD rock stars are in the community and obviously I've had them both

individually and together on the podcast before and I put links to those episodes in the show

notes but I wanted to get them on to briefly talk about their online

course which is called thriving with O. C. D. Four keys out when locked in Dell.

And I really I like this course and I believe in sort of extra self-help

initiatives and courses that kind of work alongside therapy, but also if you currently can't get to therapy or you're not in

therapy, whatever the reason is, I believe in self-help as a kind of necessity to improve recovery and also support until you

support you until you get time to do therapy so some of the questions I ask them about the course is sort of you know what is thriving with

OCD mean to you these are words they use thriving with OCD. They talk about the

antidote to doubt being belief and I asked them to explain why and I want you to learn from that.

They also have this thing called the AAA attitude and I get them to break that down.

And also the greater good you know this idea

of it's similar to values in acts but they talk about the greater good and I really

like that and also talking about sort of acceptance and surrendering and how that helps.

So there's lots of information in this episode as well as obviously you understand the course

and see if that is something that can help you and something

you think would be interested in and if you do want to take part then absolutely go to

the OTC stories dot com slash podcast that's the OCT stories

dot com back slash podcast and you will find a link there where you'll be able to get

25% off so they've kindly given my audience, you guys,

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