BETTER PLANET THAN WE HAVE EVER KNOWN: 4/4 A Dog's World: Imagining the Lives of Dogs in a World without Humans, by Jessica Pierce and Marc Bekoff
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BETTER PLANET THAN WE HAVE EVER KNOWN: 4/4 A Dog's World: Imagining the Lives of Dogs in a World without Humans, by Jessica Pierce and Marc Bekoff
https://www.amazon.com/Dogs-World-Imagining-without-Humans/dp/0691196184
What would happen to dogs if humans simply disappeared? Would dogs be able to survive on their own without us? A Dog’s World imagines a posthuman future for dogs, revealing how dogs would survive―and possibly even thrive―and explaining how this new and revolutionary perspective can guide how we interact with dogs now.
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| 0:00.0 | This is CBS Eye on the World. I'm John Bachelor with Jessica Pearson Mark Backhoff. |
| 0:10.6 | A dog's world is their new presentation of imaginess of thought experiment, imagining |
| 0:16.0 | the lives of dogs and world without humans. So we've gone through the home dogs, the |
| 0:20.9 | free-ranging dogs and the feral dogs. We've made the transition. We're now in a world |
| 0:26.8 | where there's no memory, first generation, second generation, third generation of human |
| 0:31.2 | beings, homo sapiens. The dogs are impact behavior. Then they've found a style that suits |
| 0:39.3 | them in the niche where they live, desert to forests, to high latitudes and we're dealing |
| 0:48.1 | with some truths that we can imagine for the future. And Jessica, one of the things that |
| 0:54.6 | was most impressed by is that there is no future dog. There is a universal dog. We've |
| 1:01.6 | talked about its characteristics, but I'm keen on its psychology on what it would imagine |
| 1:09.0 | the world to be. Does it see itself as a as a as top of the food chain, these dogs hunting |
| 1:16.6 | and packs? Because my observation is that wolves are in their environment, certainly dominant. |
| 1:24.3 | Will dogs in the future see themselves as dominant, Jessica? |
| 1:29.7 | That's a good question. I'm not sure. I think it could go either way. I think my intuitive |
| 1:38.7 | answer to your question is dogs are just going to see themselves as a sort of fluid part of |
| 1:43.8 | their ecosystem, that they don't have this sense of the sort of meta place in the world, the way we |
| 1:53.2 | might imagine them to be. They will just be who they are and do what they need to do to get by. |
| 2:03.4 | Mark, I come to you with the wild animal in dogs. It returns, but presumption in your book is |
| 2:10.9 | that it doesn't return to the wolf. Is that correct, Mark? Or does it? Is the wolf the design |
| 2:16.9 | dog for a wolf without humans? Yeah, we say that they won't go back to being wolves, but yeah, |
| 2:24.5 | in many ways, I think it is. I think that's a great question. I mean, they'll live alone, |
| 2:30.2 | they'll live in mated pairs or pairs, and they'll live in packs just as wolves do today. They'll |
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