I'll be honest, we spend a lot of time on this program talking about what's going on inside your skull,

where the big wrinkly wet mass we call your brain lives. We talk about what's happening in there,

how to affect it, how to make the big wrinkly wet mass do what you want it to do, or at least,

at very goddamn least, not do what you desperately wish it wouldn't do.

Sometimes we talk about what meds you might swallow that get swished around inside you and

in your system and then connect with your brain. Sometimes we talk about treatments where

something connects to your skull and taps it or something so that something desirable

happens to your brain. And sometimes we even stretch out to talk about therapists who sit

nearby you and your skull and your big wrinkly wet mass of a brain. But mostly, the reach of our

conversation is pretty tight in its perimeter. The range of

proximity is very short. Today, we're going to lift up our head and our eyes, and we're going to

look around the room and all around the home, the place we live in. We'll think about what the

design of your living space does to your mental

well-being. And yeah, how that affects the big wrinkly wet mass. It's depression mode. I'm John Moe. I'm

glad you're here. A little later in the show, some reflection from me on why I'm here making this program.

That sounds broad.

Maybe it sounds like a lead into fundraising, but don't worry, it's not.

The max fund drive isn't until next spring.

But first, Dr. Beverly Wal Fund Drive isn't until next spring.

But first, Dr. Beverly Walpole is a clinical psychologist in Ontario, Canada.

She's also the founder of Haven Wellness by Design, a consulting service based around the psychology of home design.

We're going to talk to Bev.

...