I like humans. I think they're interesting. I've mostly interviewed humans in my career,

which is pretty long by this point. I've done things for fundraisers where I interviewed puppies

one time and another time I interviewed farm animals and they're cute, but they have little

or nothing to say. There are turkeys, feral, free-roaming turkeys, all over St. Paul, Minnesota, where I live.

These turkeys confound me because they clearly have no thoughts in their heads, no plans for the day,

no goals. They're just hanging out all the time. I shall not interview these turkeys.

No, give me the humans and the full scope of their perspectives and intellects and ability to form words and such.

Among humans, sometimes, I'll talk to somebody about one particular issue.

Tell me about AI and psychosis.

Fill me in on innovations in transcranial magnetic stimulation.

Other times, we go broad with insights across a variety of topics. Yeah, we're going broad this

week. Talking to a really fascinating human. Stay with the whole episode because it goes places.

It's an adventure. Here's what we cover. The guest's

co-starring role in a much anticipated new sitcom that's related to the show The Office. His history

of ADHD, including how it affects his movie and concert going life. His visit as a Jewish person

to a white nationalist gathering,

criticisms of that visit, the idea of being a victim, and finally the intense reality-warping

power of grief. It's a ride. Buckle up. It's depression mode. I'm John Moe. I'm glad you're here.

Alex Edelman is a comedian, an actor, and writer. He's a one-person showmaker, writing and performing stories from his life, kind of in the mold of Mike Barbiglia,

who's a friend of Alex, or if you're old enough, Spalding Gray. Alex's show, just for us, played

off-Broadway and then on Broadway. It was turned into a special on HBO, won a Tony and an

Emmy. It was mostly about Alex, who was raised as an Orthodox Jew, attending anonymously, at first,

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