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Hi there, I'm Jenny Falconer. Welcome back to RunPod. Now, what's become apparent when doing this

podcast is that everyone runs for different reasons. Some people love the challenge. Others love the way it sculpts their body.

There are actually some who crave that feel-good sensation, the runners-high.

And then there's a bunch of people who like to run simply because it gets them off the sofa.

Well, this week, I'm really excited to be joined by an amazing journalist and writer.

I mean, she writes for everyone from the Guardian through to

Vogue. Her book, Jogon, was a Sunday Times bestseller at the start of the year and it's a

brutally honest description of how running has transformed her mental health. And today, I am delighted

to say that Bella Mackey is the latest member of the Run Pod Run Club.

Welcome Bella Mackey.

Thank you so much for having me.

Oh, thank you.

Did you run here?

I did think about it actually, strangely, yeah, but I thought you probably wouldn't want a sweaty me and my sort of gym kit sitting here.

Do you know what?

I do this podcast and I have never run to it because I also think everyone wants to do a sweaty

pod. But really it's about running. We shouldn't care about that. I have turned up to interviews

in my gym care but then I always get very intimidated by the fact that everyone else looks really

nice and normal and I'm sort of, you know, with a rucksuck. So when you run, do you find that you do

end up transforming your look? Do you look a mess or are you someone that can still

look over glamorous when you're running? No, I'm a huge mess. I'm so jealous of those people who sort of

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