Behind the Curtain on The Social Dilemma — with Jeff Orlowski-Yang and Larissa Rhodes

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🗓️ 11 November 2021

⏱️ 44 minutes

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How do you make a film that impacts more than 100 million people in 190 countries in 30 languages? This week on Your Undivided Attention, we're going behind the curtain on The Social Dilemma — the Netflix documentary about the dark consequences of the social media business model, which featured the Center for Humane Technology. On the heels of the film's 1-year anniversary and winning of 2 Emmy Awards, we're talking with Exposure Labs' Director Jeff Orlowski-Yang and Producer Larissa Rhodes. What moved Jeff and Larissa to shift their focus from climate change to social media? How did the film transform countless lives, including ours and possibly yours? What might we do differently if we were producing the film today? Join us as we explore the reverberations of The Social Dilemma — which we're still feeling the effects of over one year later.

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0:00.0	Have you seen the movie Social Dilemma?
0:02.7	Senator, I'm familiar with it.
0:05.6	Okay, have you seen it, Mr. Dorsey?
0:08.3	No, I have not.
0:10.2	I would encourage both of you to see it.
0:20.4	That Senator Lindsey Graham had a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing last November, where
0:25.1	Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg and Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey were testifying about regulating
0:30.7	social media.
0:32.1	And one question Senator Graham chose to ask them was whether they had seen the Social
0:36.6	Dilemma.
0:44.6	The Social Dilemma is an Emmy award-winning Netflix documentary about the dark consequences
0:48.9	of the social media business model that featured me, Asa, and the Center for Humane Technology
0:53.6	team, and might actually be the way you learned about our work.
1:01.8	The film unleashed an avalanche of efforts around the world to address the harms of social
1:06.1	media, which were still feeling the reverberations of today over one year later.
1:12.1	I'm Tristan Harris, and I'm Asa Raskin, and this is your undivided attention, the podcast
1:18.4	from the Center for Humane Technology.
1:25.7	How do you make a film that impacts more than a hundred million people in a hundred
1:30.0	and ninety countries and in thirty languages?
1:33.0	Well, today we're going behind the curtain on the Social Dilemma, with the film's director
1:39.0	Jeff Lurlowski and producer Larissa Rose.
1:42.8	Jeff and Larissa are based at Exposure Labs, a production company devoted to maximizing
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