A Fresh Take on Tech in China — with Rui Ma and Duncan Clark

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🗓️ 10 December 2021

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

Who do you think the Chinese government considers its biggest rival? The United States, right? Actually, the Chinese government considers its biggest rival to be its own technology companies. It's China's tech companies who threaten its capacity to build a competitive China. That's why the Chinese government is cracking down on social media — for example, by limiting the number of hours youth can play video games, and banning cell phone use in schools. China's restrictions on social media use may be autocratic, but may also protect users more than what we see coming from the US government. It’s a complicated picture. This week on Your Undivided Attention, we're having a surprising conversation about technology in China. Here to give us a fresh take are two guests: investor, analyst, and co-host of the Tech Buzz China podcast Rui Ma, and China internet expert and author of Alibaba: The House That Jack Ma Built Duncan Clark.

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0:00.0	This episode is about China.
0:03.0	China lacks free and fair elections,
0:05.0	they restrict freedom of expression,
0:07.0	and they have a horrible record on human rights.
0:09.0	We condemn China's human rights abuses in the strongest terms.
0:13.0	And today, we're going to talk about something different.
0:17.0	Specifically, who do you think the Chinese government
0:20.0	considers its biggest rival to its power?
0:24.0	You'd say the United States, right?
0:27.0	Well, actually, the Chinese government
0:29.0	considers its biggest rival to be its own technology companies.
0:35.0	Chinese tech companies are the ones who threaten its capacity
0:37.0	to build a competitive China.
0:39.0	And China's tech companies are the ones who influence
0:41.0	how its children are being educated.
0:44.0	That's why the Chinese government
0:46.0	has been cracking down on social media.
0:48.0	That's why they crack down on Doyin,
0:50.0	the Chinese version of TikTok.
0:52.0	So Chinese youth under the age of 14
0:54.0	can only use TikTok for 40 minutes per day
0:57.0	and only between 6 a.m. and 10 p.m.
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